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Marc Feel Good Eating

This is great info!
Thank you!

Marc

Chef Rachel

Hi Marc,

Glad you found it helpful. I'm amazed at how much the info in my holistic pet care books dovetails with what I've read and learned about paleolithic nutrition. Makes sense given that all animals are designed for a particular diet and that when we deviate from it, problems ensue! I wonder how man of the authors have considered a low-carb, high protein and fat-rich diet for themselves.

I'll post about healthy cat treats next week.

Thanks for reading my blog and commenting,

Rachel

Tommy Williams

We have been feeding our German Shepherd food from Darwin's Natural Pet Food (http://darwinspet.com/) for several years and she has done wonderfully on it (she's 11 now). We live in the Seattle area so they deliver to our house but I think they also ship--and they now offer cat food as well.

Chef Rachel

I just checked out their web site and it looks great. They do cat food too. Prices look good although shipping would be pricey to where I live. I'll bet there's a company w/similar products in the Phoenix metro area.

Thank you for sharing this info. I'll post about raw, freeze dried cat/dog treats next week. I hope you'll subscribe to my blog to receive notification of new posts.

Sincerely,

Rachel

Vin - NaturalBias

With all the people who are overweight and sick, it's amazing that they feed their pets the same food that they eat and wonder why their cat or dog is also overweight and sick. Animals need REAL food just like we do!

Our cat absolutely loves scraps of raw meat, but interestingly, won't go near salmon. I've tried to convince my wife to feed him real food, but she feeds him prescription food that the vet recommended instead. Ground beef is a great idea that I didn't think of (probably because I don't eat it). It's cheap and easy to prepare!

Another great book worth checking out is Pottenger's Cats.

Stone

How can I get my dog to eat carrots... I hear they are very healthy for him, yet he is not interested in them... any tips?
thanks
Stone
Stone@itspawsablenyc.com

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Chef Rachel

Hi Stone,

Dogs can benefit from eating some raw vegetable matter mixed into their food (raw meat is best). I have friends who feed their dogs this diet and they are healthy, happy, and many have prevented and/or recovered from degenerative diseases.I suggest you check out a book on the bones and raw food diet (BARF for short). http://www.barfworld.com/

It will explain how much to mix into your dog's food, what other veggies are best for them, and provide other tips.

Best of success,
Rachel

Chef Rachel

Hi Vin,

Unfortunately most vets are like most doctors, trained to recommend conventional, processed foods and grain-based nutrition.

I am familiar with the Pottenger's Cats book and the video. Very interesting. Perhaps your wife will be more open to feeding your cat a raw food diet if you send her links to some of the web sites on it or bring home one or two books on the subject. Cats do need a mix of certain specific ingredients; giving them only raw meat can create some deficiencies. Cats need some organ meats, some bones or bone meal, and some supplements if you make your own pet food.

Some specialty pet stores and companies sell the ready mixed raw meat mixture for cats, frozen. You can simply thaw, then serve. Others, such as Whole Foods Market sell the ground meat for cats and dogs, to which you'd need to add certain supps (as outlined in some of the books I mentioned above) and on some web sites.

Wishing you the best,
Rachel

Joanne of Open Mind Required

I've been feeding my cats raw prey since 1992. I have four cats who are 16 years old in very good health.

I also have some cats who are 3 years old and a couple who are 1 year old, all of which ate raw meat since weaning.

I fed them high quality, grain-free canned food last year for about a month and a half during a move across country. I hope to never have to do that again. Most got eye infections (from the food coupled with the stress of the move), the older cats got colds, and their feces were offensive. (One of the many benefits of raw meat is relatively odorless feces.) My cats are seldom sick, and when they are I let them fast and rest until they recover.

I suppose I could be supplementing their diet with various nutrients recommended by many, but I only give them some fish oil, and eggs yolks or sardines on occasion. They eat rabbit, chicken, turkey and rarely duck Feeding My Cats Whole Raw Rabbit, Chicken, Duck and Turkey, both ground and chunked, including organs and bones plus extra chicken giblets, hearts and liver.

Once you go raw, you may never go back.

Stone

Thanks Rachel... I will check it out.
-Stone
www.itspawsablenyc.com/blog

Chef Rachel

Hi Joanne,

Do you follow a particular protocol (a book or web site) for feeding your cats an all raw diet? A good friend of mine fed his cat the Meaty Bones Diet for a while and she ate the ends of the chicken bones then sucked out the marrow. He started her on that diet really early on.

When I tried feeding my first cat raw chicken thighs and drums (boneless and bone in), she wined and looked confused and disappointed. She wasn't used to having to bite and tear into it. It was so unfamiliar to her. She was already eating canned food at that point. She's definitely healthier on that than she was on dry food.

I also tried giving her the ground raw chicken (for pets) sold at Whole Foods Market and she didn't care for it. I've heard the raw meat doesn't have as strong a smell and than canned food. I welcome any tips you have for transitioning a cat to an all raw diet.

Thanks for reading my blog!
Rachel

Joanne of Open Mind Required

Hi, Rachel:

I originally based the diet on the book Natural Nutrition for Dogs and Cats by Kymythy Schultze, which suggests mimicking live prey by providing meat, bones, organs and vegetation found in the prey's stomach. A vet in Oregon also recommended 30 percent plant matter. My cats have lived off that diet up to about 3 months ago when I removed vegetation.

Now they do not get any plant matter other than occasional small treats (rib of romaine, cucumber, avocado, fruit).

Transitioning a processed food cat to raw takes time. You have to introduce a little bit of raw at a time, preferably ground up. Just mix a teaspoon in with the food and then increase the raw portion every few days until it's all raw. Moving to whole prey will then be easier as the animal is accustomed to the smell (or perhaps lack of).

When I started feeding my cats whole chunks this year the older cats were mystified but the young ones took to it. (They had had the opportunity to hunt on my property in Oregon last year; the old ones lived indoors their whole life.)

Cats, like humans, have preferences. Everybody loves chunks of rabbit but Puddy won't touch it and Tip-Toe promptly throws it up. Everybody but Agnes eats chicken chunks. Everybody loves ground turkey and they tolerate ground chicken. Arthur has been known to steal steak off my plate. Sardines are also a hit, but only in small amounts mixed with their food. (Vomited sardine looks like melted duct tape!)

The whole chunks have really helped with their dental hygiene, so I now rotate a diet of ground turkey with whole rabbit and whole chicken (chunked, of course), an egg a week, some fish oil, and sardines.

Let me know if you need any other information. I'm happy to help kitties everywhere.

Chef Rachel

Thanks for your tips, Joanne! I think I tried to transition Sophie too quickly from canned to raw meat.

A good friend of mine gives his cats chicken legs and they clean the bones, eat the ends, suck out he marrow, and love it. He started them as kittens. I'll have to experiment with mine. I'm happy w/the results of canned over dry and am curious to see how much healthier they'd be on all raw.

Joanne of Open Mind Required

I think the bones help keep their teeth clean and their jaws and teeth strong. Good luck.

Julie

(Sorry, I forgot to spell check my last post!)

I'm also aware of the Pottenger's cat studies. When I visited Thailand last year I was able to go into some very rural areas thanks to my friend who was working in the Peace Corps.

I've grown up with cats and am very aware of their range of temperaments. When I was in that region of Thailand, every cat I met was extremely docile and friendly, almost a complete 180 from most cats you see in the Western world. They weren't scared, shy, hesitant, or combative even to complete strangers. I commented about how chill these cats were numerous times to my husband and he agreed. I couldn't help but remember the Pottenger cats.

The cats in this specific village in Thailand weren't fed a cereal based diet. They lived off the land and ate only what they caught themselves, yet were domesticated and extremely friendly!

I also had a question about species appropriate dog food. You mainly talk about cat food in your blog, but I was wondering if you knew more about dog food. We've been feeding our dog Innova's EVO brand dog food for awhile now to great success. It's one of the highest protein dog foods on the market. It contains no fillers, no by-products, no corn, soy, wheat, etc. It's only natural and also has vegetables and fruits in it.

I noticed you stated that cats don't need a full range of fruits and vegetables in their diet...but do dogs? Most of the higher end (highly nutritious) dog foods I see DO have fruits and vegetables. Thanks Rachel!

Chef Rachel

Hi Julie,

Thanks for your post and questions. I mainly focus on cats since I own two and don't have any dogs. From the research I've done on natural diets for dogs (Bones & Raw Food Diet and others like it), it appears that dogs do well with some raw or freeze dried vegetable and possibly fruit matter in their diets. I'm not familiar with EVO dog food but it sounds great from what I read on their web site. I'll see about getting samples to try on my kitties!

Thanks!
Rachel

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